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	<title>Comments on: A response to Carole Smith: Close the opportunity gap and the achievement gap will follow</title>
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		<title>By: Zarwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction, Marian.  Glad to know Madison didn&#039;t lose any of its territory.  Believe me, I am well aware of what happened to the kids in K-8.  It still sickens me how RCP got carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction, Marian.  Glad to know Madison didn&#8217;t lose any of its territory.  Believe me, I am well aware of what happened to the kids in K-8.  It still sickens me how RCP got carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zarwen,

Actually, the boundary change in the Grant/Madison catchment areas only affected the K-8 grades.  The high school boundaries remain the same.  Madison didn&#039;t lose any of its attendance area. Rose City was a &quot;split feeder&quot; school, where some kids went on to Grant and others to Madison. Now the kids who go to Roseway Heights only feed into Madison. The remaining K-8 population from RCP was split into Alameda, Fernwood, and Laurelhurst and feed into Grant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zarwen,</p>
<p>Actually, the boundary change in the Grant/Madison catchment areas only affected the K-8 grades.  The high school boundaries remain the same.  Madison didn&#8217;t lose any of its attendance area. Rose City was a &#8220;split feeder&#8221; school, where some kids went on to Grant and others to Madison. Now the kids who go to Roseway Heights only feed into Madison. The remaining K-8 population from RCP was split into Alameda, Fernwood, and Laurelhurst and feed into Grant.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Grant is packed full and the guaranteed transfer from Madison to Grant is gone.&quot;

It probably doesn&#039;t matter any more, anyway, because in the latest &quot;reconfiguration,&quot; a large chunk of the Madison attendance area was rezoned for Grant.  So now the kids who would have applied for transfers don&#039;t need to---they are already in Grant territory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Grant is packed full and the guaranteed transfer from Madison to Grant is gone.&#8221;</p>
<p>It probably doesn&#8217;t matter any more, anyway, because in the latest &#8220;reconfiguration,&#8221; a large chunk of the Madison attendance area was rezoned for Grant.  So now the kids who would have applied for transfers don&#8217;t need to&#8212;they are already in Grant territory!</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting equity in the context of equity of opportunity. Every student needs the opportunity for art, music, PE, language and college preparation classes.  

It will be interesting to see how the K-8 reconfiguration will effect transfers.  In NE Portland the schools are full.  The word on the street is that the easy transfer to Alameda, Laurelhurst or Beverly Cleary is no more.  With Madison rejecting title I they are no longer on the NCLB list.  Grant is packed full and the guaranteed transfer from Madison to Grant is gone.  A guaranteed core curriculum and increased enrollment (not to mention gas prices) will impact transfers.  I long for the day that drama, PE, music, etc. are funded publicly.  Until then, I think the district will make few changes to the transfer policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting equity in the context of equity of opportunity. Every student needs the opportunity for art, music, PE, language and college preparation classes.  </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how the K-8 reconfiguration will effect transfers.  In NE Portland the schools are full.  The word on the street is that the easy transfer to Alameda, Laurelhurst or Beverly Cleary is no more.  With Madison rejecting title I they are no longer on the NCLB list.  Grant is packed full and the guaranteed transfer from Madison to Grant is gone.  A guaranteed core curriculum and increased enrollment (not to mention gas prices) will impact transfers.  I long for the day that drama, PE, music, etc. are funded publicly.  Until then, I think the district will make few changes to the transfer policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon got everything right, but I just want to add that &quot;Closing of the opportunity gap will not happen&quot; as long as the Foundation exists.  As long as there are Foundation schools, there will be inequity in PPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon got everything right, but I just want to add that &#8220;Closing of the opportunity gap will not happen&#8221; as long as the Foundation exists.  As long as there are Foundation schools, there will be inequity in PPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;It seems bizarre to me to pass a law that affects only poor children&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

That&#039;s the only leverage the feds have, Zarwen.  Since 1965, Title I of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act has been about helping out poor kids.

It&#039;s rewrite in 2002 --No Child Left Behind-- takes full advantage of that leverage and attempts to make all public education look bad.

It&#039;s time to take a local stand against NCLB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>It seems bizarre to me to pass a law that affects only poor children</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only leverage the feds have, Zarwen.  Since 1965, Title I of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act has been about helping out poor kids.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rewrite in 2002 &#8211;No Child Left Behind&#8211; takes full advantage of that leverage and attempts to make all public education look bad.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to take a local stand against NCLB.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPS isn&#039;t set up to fail.  PPS is set up to protect middle class stduents and to concentrate the failures of NCLB on low income students and schools.  The transfer policy segregates students by income so that PPS can get federal Title I money, but the low income schools receive all the punishments of the NCLB regs.  Without the liberal transfer system the Title I eligible students along with the NCLB sanctions would be less concentrated in certain schools.  

Low income students and schools would be better off if they weren&#039;t isoloated and segregated as a result of the transfer system.  But, with the transfer system which buffers middle class kids from NCLB there isn&#039;t a powerful enough incentive for the school board to address problems with NCLB, except to say all our school problems are due to NCLB and those low-income parents who don&#039;t take advantage of the wonderful transfer system.  PPS isn&#039;t going to do anything to make the low income schools succeed as long as the current transfer policy is in place.  NCLB makes it impossible so why even try.

As with the Jefferson redesign grant and the Ockley Green magnet grant from the feds, PPS uses low income schools to bring in money to the district, but doesn&#039;t give a carp if the school improves as a result.  They use it as an opportunity to shift more money to the general fund.  Money that is intended to help low income schools ends up hurting those schools with badly planned reforms and increasing funds for the rest of the schools.

Closing of the opportunity gap will not happen without changes to the transfer policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS isn&#8217;t set up to fail.  PPS is set up to protect middle class stduents and to concentrate the failures of NCLB on low income students and schools.  The transfer policy segregates students by income so that PPS can get federal Title I money, but the low income schools receive all the punishments of the NCLB regs.  Without the liberal transfer system the Title I eligible students along with the NCLB sanctions would be less concentrated in certain schools.  </p>
<p>Low income students and schools would be better off if they weren&#8217;t isoloated and segregated as a result of the transfer system.  But, with the transfer system which buffers middle class kids from NCLB there isn&#8217;t a powerful enough incentive for the school board to address problems with NCLB, except to say all our school problems are due to NCLB and those low-income parents who don&#8217;t take advantage of the wonderful transfer system.  PPS isn&#8217;t going to do anything to make the low income schools succeed as long as the current transfer policy is in place.  NCLB makes it impossible so why even try.</p>
<p>As with the Jefferson redesign grant and the Ockley Green magnet grant from the feds, PPS uses low income schools to bring in money to the district, but doesn&#8217;t give a carp if the school improves as a result.  They use it as an opportunity to shift more money to the general fund.  Money that is intended to help low income schools ends up hurting those schools with badly planned reforms and increasing funds for the rest of the schools.</p>
<p>Closing of the opportunity gap will not happen without changes to the transfer policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing to add . . .

That said -- in 4 years, there&#039;s no way in hell that 90% of all students in PPS are going to make AYP -- we might be able to inform parents and voters and let them know for a fact that -- under NCLB -- PPS is being set up to fail. People will either get that the emperor has no clothes or the system will collapse. But sitting idly by and letting the feds determine the direction of our schools is NOT the way to go. (Sorry for the shouting, but I&#039;m kinda pissed off about this mess . . .)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing to add . . .</p>
<p>That said &#8212; in 4 years, there&#8217;s no way in hell that 90% of all students in PPS are going to make AYP &#8212; we might be able to inform parents and voters and let them know for a fact that &#8212; under NCLB &#8212; PPS is being set up to fail. People will either get that the emperor has no clothes or the system will collapse. But sitting idly by and letting the feds determine the direction of our schools is NOT the way to go. (Sorry for the shouting, but I&#8217;m kinda pissed off about this mess . . .)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zarwen - good point. But I&#039;m not sure what will happen when the affluent/low-minority schools start &quot;failing,&quot; i.e., fail to make AYP. One of two things could happen: (1) the parents at these schools do as you say, i.e., thumb their noses at NCLB and AYP or (2) they will succumb to the propaganda around NCLB and pull their kids from these &quot;failing&quot; schools. I certainly hope for the former, but I fear the latter. What gives me hope is that once schools like Ainsworth or Forest Park start &quot;failing&quot; to make AYP, where the hell will parents transfer their kids? At that point, nearly EVERY school in PPS will be &quot;failing,&quot; i.e., not making AYP. Consider this will happen in the very near future if the law is not drastically changed: the 2007-08 academic targets were ten points higher than the previous year, and look at the huge increase in the number of “failing” schools. There’s another huge bump of ten points in 2010-11, when 70% of all kids have to be proficient in reading and math. Then, the very next year, it goes up to 80%. Then, the next year (2012) to 90%. So in 4 years, do you think 90% of all students in PPS are going to make AYP? Not a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zarwen &#8211; good point. But I&#8217;m not sure what will happen when the affluent/low-minority schools start &#8220;failing,&#8221; i.e., fail to make AYP. One of two things could happen: (1) the parents at these schools do as you say, i.e., thumb their noses at NCLB and AYP or (2) they will succumb to the propaganda around NCLB and pull their kids from these &#8220;failing&#8221; schools. I certainly hope for the former, but I fear the latter. What gives me hope is that once schools like Ainsworth or Forest Park start &#8220;failing&#8221; to make AYP, where the hell will parents transfer their kids? At that point, nearly EVERY school in PPS will be &#8220;failing,&#8221; i.e., not making AYP. Consider this will happen in the very near future if the law is not drastically changed: the 2007-08 academic targets were ten points higher than the previous year, and look at the huge increase in the number of “failing” schools. There’s another huge bump of ten points in 2010-11, when 70% of all kids have to be proficient in reading and math. Then, the very next year, it goes up to 80%. Then, the next year (2012) to 90%. So in 4 years, do you think 90% of all students in PPS are going to make AYP? Not a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Zarwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zarwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve reminds us of a very important point.  For practical purposes, NCLB really only governs Title I schools.  Title I is determined by the percentage of children receiving free/reduced lunches, i.e., the parents&#039; incomes.  So, if your families are poor, your school desperately needs that Title I cash, so you will do handsprings to comply with these federal laws, no matter how punitive, no matter what the effect on the children.  Middle- to upper-income neighborhoods can thumb their noses at NLCB if they want, since the feds have no means to punish them.

It seems bizarre to me to pass a law that affects only poor children.  Perhaps our congressional representatives would do the sensible thing and repeal it if the reality were presented to them in that light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve reminds us of a very important point.  For practical purposes, NCLB really only governs Title I schools.  Title I is determined by the percentage of children receiving free/reduced lunches, i.e., the parents&#8217; incomes.  So, if your families are poor, your school desperately needs that Title I cash, so you will do handsprings to comply with these federal laws, no matter how punitive, no matter what the effect on the children.  Middle- to upper-income neighborhoods can thumb their noses at NLCB if they want, since the feds have no means to punish them.</p>
<p>It seems bizarre to me to pass a law that affects only poor children.  Perhaps our congressional representatives would do the sensible thing and repeal it if the reality were presented to them in that light.</p>
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