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	<title>Comments on: Restricted transfers: how does this benefit black students?</title>
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	<description>Covering the beat of Portland Public Schools</description>
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		<title>By: howard</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37872</link>
		<dc:creator>howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully understand why &quot;A member of the Oregon Assembly for Black Affairs (OABA)&quot; would pose that question, I assume, about Jefferson high and its cluster of elementary and middle schools.

I would respond by saying that a strong school needs 60% or more of its students to perform at or above grade level to serve as peer examples to underperforming peers.  Having the support of the parents of those motivated students is beneficial to a school in many ways and serves to bring along parents who might otherwise avoid contact with the school.

Urban school districts do great harm when they allow large numbers of low-performing students to be segregated racially or economically in sub-standard schools.

Therefore it is beneficial to all students when school resources are equitably available and the various neighborhood communities are fully involved in &quot;their&quot; schools and the students. invested</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully understand why &#8220;A member of the Oregon Assembly for Black Affairs (OABA)&#8221; would pose that question, I assume, about Jefferson high and its cluster of elementary and middle schools.</p>
<p>I would respond by saying that a strong school needs 60% or more of its students to perform at or above grade level to serve as peer examples to underperforming peers.  Having the support of the parents of those motivated students is beneficial to a school in many ways and serves to bring along parents who might otherwise avoid contact with the school.</p>
<p>Urban school districts do great harm when they allow large numbers of low-performing students to be segregated racially or economically in sub-standard schools.</p>
<p>Therefore it is beneficial to all students when school resources are equitably available and the various neighborhood communities are fully involved in &#8220;their&#8221; schools and the students. invested</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Buel</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37871</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Buel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you are absolutely correct in proposing a system which would help ameliorate the lack of trust in PPS&#039;s leadership during the transition period to the supposed equality in high schools. Certainly, by just making the attempt, the administration deserves kudos and a reservation of judgement on their motives while they move toward bringing some equity to a very out of balance system. 

Equity of class offerings is only a first step however. If you offer advanced placement chemistry in each school, but the students in poorer schools haven&#039;t been adequately prepared for taking the class then equity has still not been achieved. And if the classrooms in poorer schools have more disciplinary problems and weaker teachers then equity has not been achieved there either. 

High school success (including graduation) is built upon a good solid education in elementary school (where reading, writing, and basic math, as well as basic educational skills and love of learning are learned and nurtured) and the middle grades where students need to be immersed in education and activities which engage them in school and whet their appetite for high school. For poor kids we kind of do the first and pretty much don&#039;t do the second at all. Don&#039;t even recognize the importance of it really. Until we address the middle grade problems you can build all the equitable high schools you want, but the mess will still remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you are absolutely correct in proposing a system which would help ameliorate the lack of trust in PPS&#8217;s leadership during the transition period to the supposed equality in high schools. Certainly, by just making the attempt, the administration deserves kudos and a reservation of judgement on their motives while they move toward bringing some equity to a very out of balance system. </p>
<p>Equity of class offerings is only a first step however. If you offer advanced placement chemistry in each school, but the students in poorer schools haven&#8217;t been adequately prepared for taking the class then equity has still not been achieved. And if the classrooms in poorer schools have more disciplinary problems and weaker teachers then equity has not been achieved there either. </p>
<p>High school success (including graduation) is built upon a good solid education in elementary school (where reading, writing, and basic math, as well as basic educational skills and love of learning are learned and nurtured) and the middle grades where students need to be immersed in education and activities which engage them in school and whet their appetite for high school. For poor kids we kind of do the first and pretty much don&#8217;t do the second at all. Don&#8217;t even recognize the importance of it really. Until we address the middle grade problems you can build all the equitable high schools you want, but the mess will still remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy R.</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37867</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Racist agenda&quot;? For real?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Racist agenda&#8221;? For real?</p>
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		<title>By: marcia</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37837</link>
		<dc:creator>marcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with WD. It should read EVERY Student...should have access to a comprehensive program. My daughter is white and attended one of the &quot;small schools&quot; at Roosevelt, and I will never forget that she could not take fourth year Spanish in a Spanish immersion school because they did not offer the class. Just one of the little things missing at a north portland high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with WD. It should read EVERY Student&#8230;should have access to a comprehensive program. My daughter is white and attended one of the &#8220;small schools&#8221; at Roosevelt, and I will never forget that she could not take fourth year Spanish in a Spanish immersion school because they did not offer the class. Just one of the little things missing at a north portland high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rawley</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37811</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Students living west of the Willamette (Lincoln &amp; Wilson clusters) or in the Grant and Cleveland clusters are guaranteed access to comprehensive high schools. These students are predominately white and middle class. Students living in the other half of Portland, who are predominately non-white, have an almost zero chance of getting into a comprehensive high school.

&lt;em&gt;That&lt;/em&gt; is racist. Remediation of &lt;a href=&quot;http://ppsequity.org/2008/07/01/the-new-look-of-pps-equity/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ongoing institutional racism&lt;/a&gt; is not a &quot;racist agenda.&quot;

The high school plan being discussed here is an attempt to address this inequity... every student in the district would be guaranteed access to a comprehensive high school. My proposal for socio-economic exemptions from the transfer restrictions is an attempt to address the understandable lack of trust in the communities that have seen consistent adverse impact from district policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Students living west of the Willamette (Lincoln &amp; Wilson clusters) or in the Grant and Cleveland clusters are guaranteed access to comprehensive high schools. These students are predominately white and middle class. Students living in the other half of Portland, who are predominately non-white, have an almost zero chance of getting into a comprehensive high school.</p>
<p><em>That</em> is racist. Remediation of <a href="http://ppsequity.org/2008/07/01/the-new-look-of-pps-equity/" rel="nofollow">ongoing institutional racism</a> is not a &#8220;racist agenda.&#8221;</p>
<p>The high school plan being discussed here is an attempt to address this inequity&#8230; every student in the district would be guaranteed access to a comprehensive high school. My proposal for socio-economic exemptions from the transfer restrictions is an attempt to address the understandable lack of trust in the communities that have seen consistent adverse impact from district policy.</p>
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		<title>By: WD</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2009/07/21/restricted-transfers-how-does-this-benefit-black-students/comment-page-1/#comment-37796</link>
		<dc:creator>WD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone…help me understand the benefits to white students to be required to attend a high school with an impoverished academic program compared to other Portland public high schools just because the white students live in the neighborhood of an academically impoverished school?

How about any students. Period. Or do you only care about students of color? Where is this guaranteed access to a comprehensive secondary education in predominately white, middle class neighborhoods? Seems to me like this article is spurred by a racial agenda that you quite frankly should be ashamed of. Take race off of your mind, and focus on what&#039;s best for Oregon students. All of Oregon&#039;s students. Not just your racist agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone…help me understand the benefits to white students to be required to attend a high school with an impoverished academic program compared to other Portland public high schools just because the white students live in the neighborhood of an academically impoverished school?</p>
<p>How about any students. Period. Or do you only care about students of color? Where is this guaranteed access to a comprehensive secondary education in predominately white, middle class neighborhoods? Seems to me like this article is spurred by a racial agenda that you quite frankly should be ashamed of. Take race off of your mind, and focus on what&#8217;s best for Oregon students. All of Oregon&#8217;s students. Not just your racist agenda.</p>
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