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	<description>Documenting the separate and unequal schools of Portland, Ore.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Okley Green parent letter by Sia</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/05/17/okley-green-parent-letter/#comment-12814</link>
		<dc:creator>Sia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate:

I am really okay with the dance program taking some hits while it re-establishes itself as the JEFFERSON dance program.

Schools like LaGuardia School of the Performing Arts (the FAME school) or School of the Arts in my hometown of San Francisco do not offer co-op programs. You're either in or out.  You make choices.

As the enrollment increases, so will the offerings.  Also there's nothing that says that Cleveland or Lincoln or Lake Oswego High can't start their own dance programs for their students using their own resources.  

I think we have sent really mixed messages about creating community, fairness, etc. when we allowed this co-op business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate:</p>
<p>I am really okay with the dance program taking some hits while it re-establishes itself as the JEFFERSON dance program.</p>
<p>Schools like LaGuardia School of the Performing Arts (the FAME school) or School of the Arts in my hometown of San Francisco do not offer co-op programs. You&#8217;re either in or out.  You make choices.</p>
<p>As the enrollment increases, so will the offerings.  Also there&#8217;s nothing that says that Cleveland or Lincoln or Lake Oswego High can&#8217;t start their own dance programs for their students using their own resources.  </p>
<p>I think we have sent really mixed messages about creating community, fairness, etc. when we allowed this co-op business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on TAG screening for Title 1 schools by Lakeitha</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/10/02/tag-screening-for-title-1-schools/#comment-12800</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakeitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Rita,this is a big step that should get some positive press. Maybe at some point in the near future we will be able to report that there are more African American students identified for TAG than there are identified for Special ED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Rita,this is a big step that should get some positive press. Maybe at some point in the near future we will be able to report that there are more African American students identified for TAG than there are identified for Special ED.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by Steve Rawley</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/09/28/enrichment-in-k8s-is-winterhaven-the-model/#comment-12498</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a small schools ideal that would have small learning communities within comprehensive schools, with teachers as leaders and principals as teachers, that could indeed prepare our students for college.

This is the ideal that &lt;a href="http://ppsequity.org/2008/06/20/madison-high-counselor-tells-his-story/" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Colton was working toward&lt;/a&gt;, but it was &lt;a href="http://ppsequity.org/2008/07/29/can-pps-get-it-right-at-madison/" rel="nofollow"&gt;hijacked by administrators&lt;/a&gt; who continue to see small schools as autonomous academic silos and prevent students from taking classes outside their own communities.

Unfortunately, this is part of a national trend, pushed by gazillionaire educational know-nothings Bill gates and Eli Broad through their foundations. &lt;a href="http://michaelklonsky.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Micheal Klonsky&lt;/a&gt; and Susan Klonsky wrote a book about it, called &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Small-Schools-Ownership-Positions-Education/dp/0415961238/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1222911865&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Small Schools: Public School Reform Meets the Ownership Society."&lt;/a&gt;

So there's nothing to say that "small schools" and "comprehensive schools" are at odds with one another. The original thinking was that the former could be a way of organizing the latter, not a stripped-down replacement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a small schools ideal that would have small learning communities within comprehensive schools, with teachers as leaders and principals as teachers, that could indeed prepare our students for college.</p>
<p>This is the ideal that <a href="http://ppsequity.org/2008/06/20/madison-high-counselor-tells-his-story/" rel="nofollow">David Colton was working toward</a>, but it was <a href="http://ppsequity.org/2008/07/29/can-pps-get-it-right-at-madison/" rel="nofollow">hijacked by administrators</a> who continue to see small schools as autonomous academic silos and prevent students from taking classes outside their own communities.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is part of a national trend, pushed by gazillionaire educational know-nothings Bill gates and Eli Broad through their foundations. <a href="http://michaelklonsky.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Micheal Klonsky</a> and Susan Klonsky wrote a book about it, called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Small-Schools-Ownership-Positions-Education/dp/0415961238/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1222911865&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Small Schools: Public School Reform Meets the Ownership Society.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>So there&#8217;s nothing to say that &#8220;small schools&#8221; and &#8220;comprehensive schools&#8221; are at odds with one another. The original thinking was that the former could be a way of organizing the latter, not a stripped-down replacement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by Rita Moore</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/09/28/enrichment-in-k8s-is-winterhaven-the-model/#comment-12482</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this curriculum information is stunning.  I'm not particularly surprised by it, but it is stunning to see it in black and white.  Even if the information is only ballpark accurate, it makes the disparities in offerings undeniably clear.  

What exactly are the small schools supposed to achieve?  Clearly not college entrance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this curriculum information is stunning.  I&#8217;m not particularly surprised by it, but it is stunning to see it in black and white.  Even if the information is only ballpark accurate, it makes the disparities in offerings undeniably clear.  </p>
<p>What exactly are the small schools supposed to achieve?  Clearly not college entrance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Okley Green parent letter by Nate</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/05/17/okley-green-parent-letter/#comment-12471</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, speaking as a member of the Jefferson dancers and as an academic student of Cleveland high school(class of '09)- I would just like to say that as far as I can tell, the dance program wouldn't be half as good if the students weren't aloud to co-op. The co-op program allows great dancers from all over Portland (and even Beaverton+LO)to come together creating a very diverse and talented group of students-both financially AND ethnically diverse. I've spoken to many students about whether or not they would be willing/able to transfer to Jefferson as a full-time student, and so far I'd say almost all of them said no. Most don't want to transfer because they're offered higher classes and more programs/opportunities (i.e. international baccalaureate) at their home schools, some just feel more comfortable being with people they know and trust throughout the day at their neighborhood schools, another thing is we really like our off campus lunch and freedom- but whatever the reason(s) might be-the point is that little to no students would be willing to transfer, and i don't mean to be negative but from my predictions i would assume that if all of the Jefferson dancers had to attend the high school, the program would crumble apart-at LEAST for quite a few years after the change. When i came to the co-op placement audition at the end of my 8th grade year, the studio was absolutely PACKED with dancers, we could hardly even move! Last year the da vinci dancers and other middle school kids were told that they might have to go to jefferson full-time if they want to participate in the program, and i don't remember the exact number of students that showed up for the placement (thinking they might have to transfer into Jefferson full-time), but that day the studio was practically empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, speaking as a member of the Jefferson dancers and as an academic student of Cleveland high school(class of &#8216;09)- I would just like to say that as far as I can tell, the dance program wouldn&#8217;t be half as good if the students weren&#8217;t aloud to co-op. The co-op program allows great dancers from all over Portland (and even Beaverton+LO)to come together creating a very diverse and talented group of students-both financially AND ethnically diverse. I&#8217;ve spoken to many students about whether or not they would be willing/able to transfer to Jefferson as a full-time student, and so far I&#8217;d say almost all of them said no. Most don&#8217;t want to transfer because they&#8217;re offered higher classes and more programs/opportunities (i.e. international baccalaureate) at their home schools, some just feel more comfortable being with people they know and trust throughout the day at their neighborhood schools, another thing is we really like our off campus lunch and freedom- but whatever the reason(s) might be-the point is that little to no students would be willing to transfer, and i don&#8217;t mean to be negative but from my predictions i would assume that if all of the Jefferson dancers had to attend the high school, the program would crumble apart-at LEAST for quite a few years after the change. When i came to the co-op placement audition at the end of my 8th grade year, the studio was absolutely PACKED with dancers, we could hardly even move! Last year the da vinci dancers and other middle school kids were told that they might have to go to jefferson full-time if they want to participate in the program, and i don&#8217;t remember the exact number of students that showed up for the placement (thinking they might have to transfer into Jefferson full-time), but that day the studio was practically empty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't expect every school to have classes like "US Japan Relations" but I do expect chemistry and physics!  Jefferson doesn't have Chemistry? WTF PPS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t expect every school to have classes like &#8220;US Japan Relations&#8221; but I do expect chemistry and physics!  Jefferson doesn&#8217;t have Chemistry? WTF PPS?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Company guy by Steve Buel</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/10/01/company-guy/#comment-12463</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Buel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, don't you think maybe we are going too fast in trying to get an equal shake for students segregated into poor schools in poor neighborhoods? Gradualism seems like it might be the best approach. Let's continue to talk about it. Let's make sure we have time to check with Stand for Children, the Portland Schools Foundation, and the Oregonian editorial board. What do they say? For years we haven't even talked about this issue, just let those poor kids flounder and their education stagnate. So why the big hurry now? After all, it has only been 15+ years since the PPS administration began to intentionally discriminate against schools in poor neighborhoods by slowly making inequitable the offerings and opportunities they so freely give to the SFC neighborhood schools. Take it easy Steve, heck Rome wasn't built in a day, discrimination wasn't declared illegal for 90+ years beginning at the end of slavery until Brown v. the Board of Education, communism lasted 72 years. So relax, kick back, don't be so oppositional, have a kool-aid popsicle, take a vacation to the suburbs where they have some equity, ride the bus across town and declare it a fun time, revel in the silence at the school board meetings following when parents complain, quit trying to solve the big problems, try something easier, donate a library book or two to those schools without libraries or certificated librarians, go slow, be careful, let people know you can be a team player, heck, maybe they will even throw you a bone or two like letting your kids be winners in the lottery transfer process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, don&#8217;t you think maybe we are going too fast in trying to get an equal shake for students segregated into poor schools in poor neighborhoods? Gradualism seems like it might be the best approach. Let&#8217;s continue to talk about it. Let&#8217;s make sure we have time to check with Stand for Children, the Portland Schools Foundation, and the Oregonian editorial board. What do they say? For years we haven&#8217;t even talked about this issue, just let those poor kids flounder and their education stagnate. So why the big hurry now? After all, it has only been 15+ years since the PPS administration began to intentionally discriminate against schools in poor neighborhoods by slowly making inequitable the offerings and opportunities they so freely give to the SFC neighborhood schools. Take it easy Steve, heck Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day, discrimination wasn&#8217;t declared illegal for 90+ years beginning at the end of slavery until Brown v. the Board of Education, communism lasted 72 years. So relax, kick back, don&#8217;t be so oppositional, have a kool-aid popsicle, take a vacation to the suburbs where they have some equity, ride the bus across town and declare it a fun time, revel in the silence at the school board meetings following when parents complain, quit trying to solve the big problems, try something easier, donate a library book or two to those schools without libraries or certificated librarians, go slow, be careful, let people know you can be a team player, heck, maybe they will even throw you a bone or two like letting your kids be winners in the lottery transfer process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by Steve Rawley</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/09/28/enrichment-in-k8s-is-winterhaven-the-model/#comment-12384</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Rawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele, the only way to force a principal to hire library staff... is to force them to hire library staff. I think we can pretty definitively say that.

Again and again we see it: in less wealthy schools principals spend FTE on "core" academics (those darn tests again) at the expense of not just libraries, the arts, and foreign languages but also science, literature, writing, economics, business and history.

Just look at the courses offered at &lt;a href="http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/ohs/hs_syllabi/?year=2008-09&#38;course=&#38;teacher=&#38;school=913&#38;sort=Course+Number&#38;search=Find+Syllabi" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jefferson&lt;/a&gt; and those offered at &lt;a href="http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/ohs/hs_syllabi/?year=2008-09&#38;course=&#38;teacher=&#38;school=912&#38;sort=Course+Number&#38;search=Find+Syllabi" rel="nofollow"&gt;the next school over&lt;/a&gt;. Repeat comparisons for any of the small schools at Madison, Marshall or Roosevelt vs. any of Cleveland, Lincoln or Wilson.

(Disclaimer: I do not know whether these syllabi listings are complete for each school, but the Jefferson one looks pretty close from what I can tell.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele, the only way to force a principal to hire library staff&#8230; is to force them to hire library staff. I think we can pretty definitively say that.</p>
<p>Again and again we see it: in less wealthy schools principals spend FTE on &#8220;core&#8221; academics (those darn tests again) at the expense of not just libraries, the arts, and foreign languages but also science, literature, writing, economics, business and history.</p>
<p>Just look at the courses offered at <a href="http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/ohs/hs_syllabi/?year=2008-09&amp;course=&amp;teacher=&amp;school=913&amp;sort=Course+Number&amp;search=Find+Syllabi" rel="nofollow">Jefferson</a> and those offered at <a href="http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/ohs/hs_syllabi/?year=2008-09&amp;course=&amp;teacher=&amp;school=912&amp;sort=Course+Number&amp;search=Find+Syllabi" rel="nofollow">the next school over</a>. Repeat comparisons for any of the small schools at Madison, Marshall or Roosevelt vs. any of Cleveland, Lincoln or Wilson.</p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I do not know whether these syllabi listings are complete for each school, but the Jefferson one looks pretty close from what I can tell.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by Rita Moore</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/09/28/enrichment-in-k8s-is-winterhaven-the-model/#comment-12363</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your clarification, Steve. I'd like to see some updates on the web site and I'd hope that there will be ongoing opportunities for parents (and kids, by the way) to provide feedback.  As I understand it, there are no parents or community members currently on the PK8 Action Team.  Is that accurate?  If so, what's the explanation for that?

As for the cost issue, I completely agree that to do K8 right (or small schools in high schools for that matter) you need to be willing and able to devote significantly MORE resources than you would otherwise.  This is Econ 101. You are losing economies of scale by creating smaller entities, requiring additional expenditures to provide both the infrastructure (science labs, retrofitted bathrooms, etc) and inputs (teachers, counselors, library books, support staff, etc.) to maintain the same level of service.  Unless you don't intend to provide the same level of service.

I go back to questions I had when this reconfiguration movement first started: what problem is the reconfiguration supposed to fix?  How is it supposed to fix it?  How will we know if/when it's been fixed?  

Now, maybe those answers were provided and I missed them, in which case I'd love to be enlightened.

As I looked at the original materials presented to the Board in support of Vickie's proposal, it certainly appeared that cost savings were supposed to be a principal benefit since the reconfiguration was to be linked with school closures. As far as I can tell not only have there been no real savings, but there have been increased costs. Granted, fewer closures happened than they anticipated, but I have never seen any evidence that costs associated with wholesale reconfiguration were ever factored into the decision.  They certainly need to be factored in now, though.

So I's like to ask the original questions again: what problem (or problems) are K8s supposed to solve?  Are they solving them?  How do we know? If doing K8 right will, in fact, require resources that PPS just doesn't have and likely won't get any time soon, is it time to apologize, declare the experiment a mistake, and reverse the whole thing?

Realistically, that may not be possible for a whole variety of reasons, but I certainly want these questions to be considered BEFORE we embark on a high school redesign process, especially if small schools are going to be part of the grand scheme. We need to identify the lessons of the K8 reconfiguration so that we do the next process a whole lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your clarification, Steve. I&#8217;d like to see some updates on the web site and I&#8217;d hope that there will be ongoing opportunities for parents (and kids, by the way) to provide feedback.  As I understand it, there are no parents or community members currently on the PK8 Action Team.  Is that accurate?  If so, what&#8217;s the explanation for that?</p>
<p>As for the cost issue, I completely agree that to do K8 right (or small schools in high schools for that matter) you need to be willing and able to devote significantly MORE resources than you would otherwise.  This is Econ 101. You are losing economies of scale by creating smaller entities, requiring additional expenditures to provide both the infrastructure (science labs, retrofitted bathrooms, etc) and inputs (teachers, counselors, library books, support staff, etc.) to maintain the same level of service.  Unless you don&#8217;t intend to provide the same level of service.</p>
<p>I go back to questions I had when this reconfiguration movement first started: what problem is the reconfiguration supposed to fix?  How is it supposed to fix it?  How will we know if/when it&#8217;s been fixed?  </p>
<p>Now, maybe those answers were provided and I missed them, in which case I&#8217;d love to be enlightened.</p>
<p>As I looked at the original materials presented to the Board in support of Vickie&#8217;s proposal, it certainly appeared that cost savings were supposed to be a principal benefit since the reconfiguration was to be linked with school closures. As far as I can tell not only have there been no real savings, but there have been increased costs. Granted, fewer closures happened than they anticipated, but I have never seen any evidence that costs associated with wholesale reconfiguration were ever factored into the decision.  They certainly need to be factored in now, though.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;s like to ask the original questions again: what problem (or problems) are K8s supposed to solve?  Are they solving them?  How do we know? If doing K8 right will, in fact, require resources that PPS just doesn&#8217;t have and likely won&#8217;t get any time soon, is it time to apologize, declare the experiment a mistake, and reverse the whole thing?</p>
<p>Realistically, that may not be possible for a whole variety of reasons, but I certainly want these questions to be considered BEFORE we embark on a high school redesign process, especially if small schools are going to be part of the grand scheme. We need to identify the lessons of the K8 reconfiguration so that we do the next process a whole lot better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Enrichment&#8221; in K8s: is Winterhaven the model? by Michele Schultz</title>
		<link>http://ppsequity.org/2008/09/28/enrichment-in-k8s-is-winterhaven-the-model/#comment-12360</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not surprised that Rita has provided such a thoughtful and thorough analysis of one of the "pesky" issues with the K-8 reconfiguration. I think she has said it all quite well. Her thoughts made me jump to another concern I have been struggling with. While, on one hand - parents have been encouraged and/or coerced into teaching electives and dipping into their pockets for "enrichments" (if their pockets have any change left in them) there is another story that has been unfolding within PPS. 

Access to library services, and a library is another area of concern for many of our K-8's. A few schools have made use of parent volunteers (again) to staff the library - but they have done so without any support from the central district office. In fact, the policy has been that schools that do not have any paid staff (either licensed or unlicensed) are not allowed use of the district's computerized system. It appears that this stance has been to try and force Principal's to allocate some of their precious FTE for media staffing. I cannot begin to say if this has been an effective strategy - but I must say that it seems rather bizarre that parents are encouraged to teach electives, but are not allowed to support a school library? (And, I know, I am simplifying things - issues like supervision of students, etc.) But - really - the goal is parent involvement and some access to a school library in every school... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not surprised that Rita has provided such a thoughtful and thorough analysis of one of the &#8220;pesky&#8221; issues with the K-8 reconfiguration. I think she has said it all quite well. Her thoughts made me jump to another concern I have been struggling with. While, on one hand - parents have been encouraged and/or coerced into teaching electives and dipping into their pockets for &#8220;enrichments&#8221; (if their pockets have any change left in them) there is another story that has been unfolding within PPS. </p>
<p>Access to library services, and a library is another area of concern for many of our K-8&#8217;s. A few schools have made use of parent volunteers (again) to staff the library - but they have done so without any support from the central district office. In fact, the policy has been that schools that do not have any paid staff (either licensed or unlicensed) are not allowed use of the district&#8217;s computerized system. It appears that this stance has been to try and force Principal&#8217;s to allocate some of their precious FTE for media staffing. I cannot begin to say if this has been an effective strategy - but I must say that it seems rather bizarre that parents are encouraged to teach electives, but are not allowed to support a school library? (And, I know, I am simplifying things - issues like supervision of students, etc.) But - really - the goal is parent involvement and some access to a school library in every school&#8230; right?</p>
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